LCFC Stadium Site

[mrstiko]

Assuming the club keeps drawing big crowds, they will eventually get a soccer-specific stadium. The USL has set 2020 as a goal for all league clubs to be playing in their own soccer venue.

Maybe its time to discuss where the fans would prefer it, since the club may ask the coopers for input when the time is right. Again, it won't happen tomorrow... but it will happen.   

I'm pretty sure a downtown venue is a must given the MLS explicitly demands it from new clubs and it makes sense in terms of access, bars & amenities. I've hear rumors from the waterfront to the west end.

Speaking for myself, I prefer the old silo location two blocks northeast of Slugger Field and directly south of the Big Four bridge. For starters, its easy to get to from all directions since it literally borders Spaghetti junction. Second its a pretty underdeveloped part of downtown giving the club space to work with in terms of parking, size, and maybe expansion one day. Finally its directly south of Waterfront Park which families love and north of the bars scene in East Market/NuLu where millennials/coopers can gather to celebrate before/after games. Just a suggestion.

 

[bluebeard]

Keeping close to downtown would be a priority in my opinion - I hadn't thought of that location before, myself, and it seems a good starting suggestion. I know that there is a big push to go West too, which might be worth examining.

Personally, I really don't want us to be out in a rebuilt Cardinal Stadium, which I have heard once or twice - keep it close to the centre, IMO.

[kevin]

I know it would be a tight fit, but maybe put a stadium where the parking lot is now directly west of the Slugg.

[adamshaw502]

I don't have a specific spot in mind, but I'd love to see it be out in Portland. The area is on the rise, has some of our better businesses relocating/expanding there, and could use an anchor to really push it in a positive direction.

I'd be surprised if a stadium were built where Cardinal Stadium is now. There isn't enough near the site for it to be exciting and/or worthwhile, in my opinion.

[mrstiko]

Great input.

I wouldn't be against the West End IF and ONLY IF it is close enough to bars & food options. I like the location, but the parking lot next to Slug might not be big enough and the giant apartment tower next door might block it... but I don't know. I agree Cardinal Stadium would be a complete buzz kill. Ask the New England Revolution fans what it's like tailgating in a giant suburban parking lot. Its just not a good soccer atmosphere.

Being in an easy to reach spot downtown with space to expand one day makes sense. Keep throwing out suggestions. Here's another shot of the silo location.

[shana]

I'm personally tired of everything going downtown when the street rolls up the sidewalks at night except for the bars/restaurants, and the majority of the tax base is outside downtown. We don't have any major retail establishments in the downtown area to anchor a shopping district like in Indy and Cincinnati. But I think it's inevitable that it will be located downtown. I don't like the 22nd street option. It's not an easily accessed location and a large crowd would find difficulty getting to the stadium if there's an accident on I-64. When that happens, traffic tends to back up in both directions due to rubbernecking on the non-accident side of the highway. There would also be major traffic problems exiting the stadium unless the I64/22nd street exchange is reconfigured. People aren't going to be pleased if they are late to matches due to traffic problems resulting from the poor choice of location and development of the roadways around the stadium.

However, there's an excellent possibility that a stadium would be located there due to the price of land. And I'm sure there will be government incentive money for owners/developers to put a stadium in the West End. I do think that as far as investment in the Portland community, other businesses would be more beneficial such as another grocery store that would provide year long employment opportunities. And do the residents of the area want gentrification which could result in their displacement?

The silos would be a good area as long as there's easy access from the interstate system and plenty of parking. It would be nice to have a hotel or two located close to the stadium for visitors.

I've also heard people mention the current VA hospital site as a possible location once the hospital moves, or finding a location on River Road.

As far as Cardinal Stadium, one of the main problems is the Fair Board. They have control issues. It's a good location for visitors since there are hotels within walking distance of Churchill Downs. That area has been built up the recent years due to Churchill Downs. A stadium at the old location would result in more bars/restaurants. I think it may be possible to have a bar/restaurant connected to a stadium, but I don't think people will want to pay fairground parking just to have dinner or watch a match at the stadium bar. I know you can purchase year long parking passes to the fairgrounds.

I think wherever the stadium is located, bars/restaurants will be built in the general vicinity. Maybe even hotels and other entertainment venues. I'm sure in the negotiations for the stadium, incentives could be offered.

[loucitybk]

The number one priority in my opinion is getting it built. Location is secondary to that. I hope the city comes up with the funds and plans to do it right, and it has to be with the goal of MLS in mind. Anything else is a failure. With the city expanding to the east, upper river road at the old county club site seems like the perfect place to me. It's already fairly entrenched with youth soccer and would be a great way of expanding downtown to the east, just as the Waterfront Park and the Big 4 Bridge have done.

[johmccu]

Jun 20, 2015 2:07:38 GMT loucitybk said:

The number one priority in my opinion is getting it built. Location is secondary to that. 

This is how the Chicago Fire ended up in Bridgeview, IL and can't get people out to games. The "build at all cost" mentality can be detrimental to the team's long term success.

I'll also differ with you on which direction downtown is expanding. With Gil Holland focusing his efforts on Portland, I can only see the city center moving further west. A stadium on Museum Row (Main St.) on the other side of the 9th St divide (somewhere between 9th and 15th ideally) that has some sort of mixed use market/store/restaurant, like an Eataly could do absolute wonders in revitalizing that part of town.

[timmylc]

When considering a location West of say 9th street, we must take into consideration crime statistics (not perception, but facts). Nothing will kill the future success of this program than criminal and/or gang activity, shootings, etc. Granted, crime can and does happen anywhere, but if the goal is to build the stadium downtown, then we should target an area with the statistically lowest reports of crime. Also, many LCFC fans live on the East End. But I understand the stadium needs to be somewhat centrally located to the Metro area. I was curious if LCFC has looked into sharing Lynn Stadium with the UofL Soccer program??? Perhaps scheduling would be too difficult sharing the same stadium, during the same season. But with splitting home and away games vs day/night games, it seems plausible.

[justanotherjosh]

Lynn Stadium only holds about 5300 people or so, it wouldn't be a very good fit. And as much as we all want to support soccer everywhere, UofL is heavily invested in keeping Louisville a college-sports based town.

As much as I don't like Portland, I think it's the best location for a future stadium. NuLu is the other option I've heard, but it seems a little saturated for something that large.

One idea I had was for the organization to start buying up the old buildings along a street, then maintain the facade as the front of a facility similar to Slugger. The aesthetic would be very Louisvillian.

[johnnygonzo]

It's a shame they're too late for that old Water Company site. The Omni project is great but that would've been an amazing spot for an outstanding urban stadium.

I like the thought of just moving a little further up Witherspoon to that old silo site.

What about just north of Broadway near JCC where there is are a bunch of areas that are just gigantic surface lots? Puts it close to the restaurants and bars on the Fourth Street area south of all the Fourth Street Live business.

It's going to be tough to find a spot as perfectly suited for fans coming from all parts of the city as well as Main Street is with its vicinity to everything that's grown up around Slugger Field and the Yum Center.

[Charles]

I say redevelop the two blocks between, E Jefferson, S Brook st, S Preston st(61) and E Market. Its close to hotels, next to an off ramp & near an on ramp, semi close to 4th st, close to hospitals and puts the stadium on display while driving through the city on I65! If the stadium were tall enough it would also Tower over the buildings around it making it stand out! big issue with this... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Charles]

or redevelop The Belvedere... put it front and center... made it into the skyline!!!!

[LCFC_Corey]

A good spot that wouldn't take much demolition, ONLY purchasing land is between I64 and Rowan St. This is slightly west of the I64/Roy Wilkins exit. There are railroad tracks to the west and sort of east of N 12th St. The site has a business on it. It does have an old warehouse that could be turned into a grandstand sort of like slugger field. There is also enough land for parking (extra revenue for the club). It's also within walking distance to Falls City Brewery!!!! March to the match anyone??? The flood wall does run on this property, but since the flood wall isn't really used anymore, I don't think removing it would be an issue. The Belvedere would be a tight squeeze for a location. The silos east of Slugger isn't a bad location either. Another location could potentially be a surface parking lot between 9th St/9th/Jefferson/Liberty. This is only a surface lot, so that would keep the construction cost down and is big enough for a stadium.

[LouCityBK]

I think a lot of this stuff sounds great, but when it comes down to it, it has to make sense financially. We have a gigantic arena downtown that doesn't have enough business to make it financially viable as is. While Im all for going big, it's going to be difficult for a franchise team to generate the revenue needed to justify a brand new stadium at some of these locations.

That's likely why the west end locations are being suggested by the people with the money. It's cheaper. Yet, the club has til 2020 to get a new stadium. This is in a city wheregood it took 40 years to start construction on a bridge.

The good news is that the Coopers are a serious grass roots movement with some gravitas. The same fight during a game needs to be placed on the city and all other stakholders to really make this thing work.

[johnnygonzo]

Here's a thought I had just yesterday: I was driving out of downtown on Sixth Street and turned onto Kentucky Street. An area that may well be ripe for some development and might come cheaper than land in the central business district is that zone between First and Sixth Streets south of Broadway that sits between the central business district and Old Louisville. I'm sure there are some folks in City Hall and with development companies that would love some sort of impetus to spur development in that area that would bridge downtown and arguably the city's most distinctive neighborhood.

If it were done right, it would be amazing to have that stadium sitting somewhere along Third Street with perhaps even some sort of trolley or bus service linking the area with downtown and Old Louisville and UofL even further south.

Related question I really don't know the answer to: could a 12,000 seat soccer stadium fit into a city block or will it need to bridge one street or another to get in there?

[bluebeard]

There are a few streets that stop and continue further on - as long as it's not 1st through 4th, there shouldn't be a big problem in that part of the city. The biggest problem will be parking, I would fear - the stadium footprint is big enough (and I think expansion room to grow to 25,000 is wise), but the parking lot is the bigger footprint and probable location jinxer. Otherwise the old LG&E place out between 7th and 9th (I think) would be ideal size wise

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